Episode 1: Oil
Co-Host: Patrick Watson
Guests: Laurence Jones, Jonathan Pearl, Tony Dickey
Synodic Stories: Ginger and Venus Retrograde
00:38: Introducing Patrick Watson. Nick and Watson discuss their shared interests and curiosity.
01:59: Introducing Laurence Jones.
04:28: Interview with Laurence Jones. Laurence looks at the Sun-Mars conjunction in the fall of 1959, and the introduction of a new line of compact cars by the three major U.S. automobile manufacturers. Laurence also discusses General Motors’ founder William Durant’s Sun in Sagittarius in contrast to Henry Ford’s natal Sun in Leo, with regard to their respective approaches to manufacturing and marketing cars.
09:22: Nick and Watson discuss Mars, Will Durant’s Saturn transit to his Sun in Sagittarius, Saturn in Sagittarius in the history of transport and economic depression.
13:24: Introducing Jonathan Pearl.
13:53: Interview with Jonathan Pearl. Jonathan explains how he follows the transits of planets through earth signs to anticipate highs and lows in crude oil training, and how the recent conjunction of Uranus and the South Node in Aries, square Pluto in the earth sign of Capricorn, signalled the recent crash in the crude oil market. Jonathan and Nick discuss using first trade charts to track oil, and how Jupiter-Uranus configurations might not apply to oil as they once did.
18:45: Nick and Watson discuss Jonathan’s focus on using earth signs to track crude oil market prices, and a recap of the history of John Rockefeller’s Cleveland Massacre oil buyout of 1871 and its relationship to Jupiter-Uranus cycles.
20:25: Interview with Tony Dickey. Tony discusses the role of Uranus-Pluto, Uranus-Neptune, and Saturn-Neptune configurations in the history of oil. Tony also contemplates the future of oil with regard to upcoming outer planet configurations later in the 21st century, and the roles of Russia and China in these changing times.
31:00: Watson discusses the oil spills of 1989-90 during the Saturn-Neptune conjunction in Capricorn, making the case for oil’s association with Neptune. Nick compares the perspectives of Jonathan and Tony, and how they present the broad contrast between their respective approaches to practicing astrology. Watson and Nick discuss Tony’s focus on Uranus-Pluto with regard to oil, bringing up the nativities of Edwin Drake, Queen Victoria, and Prince Albert, with regard to Uranus-Pluto cycles.
36:32: Nick’s conclusions on the study of oil in an astrological context, and the different levels in which astrological symbolism can be applied.
39:00: Concluding interview with Watson. Thanks to guests.
39:55: Quick announcements
41:16: Synodic Stories. A conversation with Ginger (March 16 ,1977; 2:25 a.m., Houston, TX) about Venus retrograde transits in Leo, Scorpio, and Gemini from her past.